# Bot Manipulation **URL:** \ **Category:** Trading Platforms\ **Created:** [March 24, 2021, 12:56pm UTC](https://community.deriv.com/t/bot-manipulation/6374 "2021-03-24T12:56:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![chindee-acetous-2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@chindee-acetous-2](https://community.deriv.com/u/chindee-acetous-2)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 12:56pm UTC](https://community.deriv.com/t/bot-manipulation/6374/1 "2021-03-24T12:56:20Z")
Hi I recently created an Expert Advisor (Bot) and an indicator to paint an arrow at the exact spot a trade should open, I have clear evidence that when I have multiple TP trades a sort of manipulation takes place, what I have seen happen is that a trade will open that does not follow my strategy/ bot rules and at the same time my indicator does not paint, so I know very well trades are opening that do not follow my bot rules, I need clarification on what happens and why, I have no problem sharing screenshots to prove my statement, if you guys do not reply or unable to explain why this happens, then you are no different to other platforms that we have been running away from who conduct manipulation Regards ---
**Author:** ![bankmen-adermin-2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@bankmen-adermin-2](https://community.deriv.com/u/bankmen-adermin-2)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 4:10pm UTC](https://community.deriv.com/t/bot-manipulation/6374/2 "2022-08-22T16:10:10Z")
Deriv is full of manipulations. The monent you discover a way to buy or sell successfully, after using the indicator or technique once or twice, you will start seeing strange candle movements. These brokers are all the same. ---
**Author:** ![beknots-acyloxy-2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@beknots-acyloxy-2](https://community.deriv.com/u/beknots-acyloxy-2)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 4:54pm UTC](https://community.deriv.com/t/bot-manipulation/6374/3 "2022-09-23T16:54:00Z")
This happened to me just now. I won by entering the last digit different then the digit that appeared and guess what? I noticed that after I started making some money, they started manipulating my results. It’s sad but true. It’s not worth it! Even winning and doing the right thing, they will find a way to stop you from winning. ---
**Author:** ![bussock-adornos-2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d2c977/32.png) [@bussock-adornos-2](https://community.deriv.com/u/bussock-adornos-2)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.deriv.com/t/bot-manipulation/6374/4 "2022-10-17T19:11:09Z")
I have experienced that today. My strategies have worked for some couple of days. But now, all my entry points are violated by the broker. Once I open a trade, consolidation starts immediately, until my account is blown up. But if I decide to just seat back and watch, all entry signals are respected. There is completely no way one can make a living trading with this broker ---
**Author:** ![chalkos-alabama-2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@chalkos-alabama-2](https://community.deriv.com/u/chalkos-alabama-2)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://community.deriv.com/t/bot-manipulation/6374/6 "2024-08-06T21:12:36Z")
Deriv are scammers. I studied deriv and devised a strategy for synthetic indices for over 5. Someone explain to me how it is so that demo has a obeys my bot but when I trade real to get digits over 5, I only get digits under 5. That’s not even weird, my bot adjusts to purchase under 5 but somehow deriv then sets itself to present only over 5. I just want my money back. ---
**Author:** ![juanjo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.deriv.com/juanjo/32/5512_2.png) [@juanjo](https://community.deriv.com/u/juanjo)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.deriv.com/t/bot-manipulation/6374/7 "2024-10-08T19:15:31Z")
Hi @chalkos-alabama-2 We apologise for the inconvenience experienced. Kindly note that Deriv adhered to strict standards, maintaining licenses from multiple financial authorities. Both internal and external auditors regularly review our operations to ensure the integrity and precise execution of all contracts. If you have any dispute to your trades, we recommend you to contact our Live Chat support for further assistance and investigation. Let us know if you have any other concerns, Your satisfaction is our priority. If you have any questions or need assistance, please feel free to reach out to us. ---
**Author:** ![juanjo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.deriv.com/juanjo/32/5512_2.png) [@juanjo](https://community.deriv.com/u/juanjo)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://community.deriv.com/t/bot-manipulation/6374/8 "2024-10-08T19:16:38Z")
Dear @chindee-acetous-2 , thank you for joining the community! We regret to note this. However, we would need to check further on your issue. Therefore, kindly reach out to us via LiveChat, for better assistance and protection of your account’s data. We’ll work with you to resolve any issues as quickly as possible. > **[Help Centre | Frequently Asked Questions | Deriv](https://deriv.com/help-centre)** > > Have questions on your trading account, how our trading platforms work or about trading? Read our FAQ’s or contact us through Deriv live chat. ---
**Author:** ![juanjo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.deriv.com/juanjo/32/5512_2.png) [@juanjo](https://community.deriv.com/u/juanjo)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 7:17pm UTC](https://community.deriv.com/t/bot-manipulation/6374/9 "2024-10-08T19:17:06Z")
Hi @beknots-acyloxy-2 , thank you for joining the community! We regret to note this. However, we would need to check further on your issue. Therefore, kindly reach out to us via LiveChat, for better assistance and protection of your account’s data. We’ll work with you to resolve any issues as quickly as possible. > **[Help Centre | Frequently Asked Questions | Deriv](https://deriv.com/help-centre)** > > Have questions on your trading account, how our trading platforms work or about trading? Read our FAQ’s or contact us through Deriv live chat.